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PHIL COLLEN





            the Pyromania album – all the grunt, hard-                             WE IN DEF LEPPARD HAVE A
            work stuff – had already been done. Mutt
            Lange actually said to me, “Have fun. Be a                                  WORK ETHIC THAT A LOT

            lead guitarist. Come up with something
            – whatever you want to do!” Which is not                                            OF OTHER BANDS JUST
            what I was expecting him
            to say. I’d heard about Mutt Lange and                                                                    DON’T HAVE.

            how he did the AC/DC albums. But no…
            He said, “Take this and have fun. Do this,
            do that, do whatever.” We worked out                                                                          plans in mind… I don’t even know to this
            some of the solos but others, like                                                                            day. I’d met Mutt before, but it all worked
            Stagefright, was just a one-off. That was a                                                                   out a treat and we went on from there…

            first take. After that it became easy and I
            understood where I would fit into the                                                                         You say you’d met Mutt and you were
            band – it was melodic shredding. On                                                                           aware of his reputation. So wasn’t it a
            Photograph, Foolin’, Rock Of Ages and all the                                                                 daunting waling into Battery Studios

            other stuff it just fell into place. Then                                                                        that first time?
            when Mutt found out I could sing he’d                                                                             No, it was great. He’s amazing. I find
            have me singing on everything,                                                                                      it pure inspiration to work with
            doing the dual part with Joe.                                                                                         him because it’s not work, it’s fun
              It was a different sound and a                                                                                      and he’s always coming up with

            different thing for me but all of a                                                                                   great ideas. He’ll say something
            sudden I’d fallen in with a                                                                                            like, “Play this…”, and it’s
            bunch of guys I knew and had                                                                                            impossible to play, but I’ll sit
            been friends with, and I knew                                                                                           down and work it out and

            that they were trying to do                                                                                              suddenly I’m doing stuff
            something a bit special.                                                                                                  I wouldn’t normally do. He
            There were so many bands                                                                                                   got me singing stuff at first
            out there that were content                                                                                                I’d find a bit hard, but then
            to try to sound like                                                                                                        he’ll say, “No, you can do

            someone else. With Def                                                                                                      it… A bit higher… a bit
            Leppard it was never like                                                                                                   louder…” and before long
            that. We always said if we                                                                                                  you’re doing stuff you
            could blend a bit of early                                                                                                  didn’t know you could do.
            AC/DC ferociousness                                                                                                       He’s the only person I’ve

            with some of the melodic                                                                                                 ever worked with who’s done
            approach, subtleties and                                                                                               it. Back in the day when we
            genius of Queen, we’d                                                                                                 were doing Hysteria he said,
            be onto something. That                                                                                             “Some of these songs are okay, but
            really is what we did. If                                                                                         they have to be more than okay.

            you listen back to some                                                                                          Everyone else out there is going to be
            of the AC/DC, Queen                                                                                            making Pyromania Part Two so we’ve got
            and Def Leppard stuff                                                                                         to be doing something really special. Or
            you can hear that’s the                                                                                       he’d go, “This chorus… it might be strong

            blueprint. Even on our                                                                                        enough for a bridge but you have to come
            new album we’re still                                                                                         up with a strong chorus as well.” He
            sticking to it.                                                                                               would really get you working, on every
                                                                                                                          level, way beyond what you thought your
            Obviously you were the                                                                                        capacity was. And before you know it

            band’s first choice to                                                                                        you’re doing something else way beyond
            replace Pete Willis, but                                                                                      what had gone before. You listen to
            do you know if they had a                                                                                     Hysteria now, and it’s just a blend and
            back-up?                                                                                                        hybrid of all styles. It was <really>

            I don’t know. Originally I just went                                                                            different. Rock people are funny – they
            down there to help out. I didn’t think I                                                                         like to put things into categories and
            was going to be in the band. I thought I                                                                          sub-categories. You can’t like punk if
            was just going to be helping them out on                                                                           you like hard rock, you can’t like
            the record, so whether they had other                                                                              metal if you like… it’s such bullshit.


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