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                                                           INTERVIEW: MICHAEL PENNINGTON













                                 02      performance—the rest of the company decided
                                         to recreate the entire scene with me. The trouble           PENNINGTON’S
                                         was, the guy doing Darth Vader (not in costume,
                                         I hasten to add) knew all the lines but I couldn’t          PROGRESS
                                         remember any of them. I’d completely forgotten
                                                                                                     Born on June 4, 1943, Michael Pennington
                                         every line, so they had to keep prompting me!               began his acting career when he joined England’s
                                                                                                     National Youth Theater. He first played Hamlet in
                                                                                                     a student production in 1964, and has performed
                                         In the years since making Return of the Jedi,
                                                                                                     in the play no less than five times. Pennington
                                         has your professional path crossed with any of              became a member of the Royal Shakespeare
                                         the other actors you worked with on Star Wars?              Company (for the first time) after graduating
                                         Ian McDiarmid, who played the Emperor, is a                 from university, and in 1986 he founded the
                                                                                                     English Shakespeare Company.
                                         very old friend of mine, and a colleague from
                                                                                                         The actor has starred in numerous West End
                                         my Royal Shakespeare Company days. We’ve                    productions, including works by Henrik Ibsen, Tom
                                         worked together many, many times. When we                   Stoppard, and Anton Chekov, during a career
                                                                                                     spanning six decades and many of the great stage
                                         were shooting Return of the Jedi, Ian was always
                                                                                                     roles, including King Lear and Macbeth. He has
                                         in the makeup chair very early each morning,                also written numerous books on stage craft.
                                         because the makeup for the Emperor was quite
                                         considerable. I’d go into his room and make fun of
                                         him. I’d say, “Which of your great Shakespearean
                                         performances is this, Ian? Is it Shylock?” I won’t     Prowse said to me, “You must do the conventions,
                                         mention the language he used to stop me, but           you’ll have a wonderful time,” but for some reason
                                         it was all in good fun. So I knew Ian well, and I      I didn’t respond, and also I didn’t know what was
                                         knew Richard Marquand a bit because we had             involved. I’ve been working in the theatre for
                                         overlapped at university. But on set, I really only    most of the last 30 years, so I’ve just been busy
                                         met Dave Prowse, as there wasn’t anybody else          with other things. Then my agent suggested I do
                                         in our scenes to meet.                                 one and I thought, ‘Yeah, of course I should do
                                                                                                this, especially at my time of life’. And it’s been
                                         You made your first convention appearance               fantastic! I don’t know what I’d imagined, but I’ve
                                         during 2018. What kept you away from the               been very touched by the enthusiasm of people
                                         Star Wars convention scene for so long?                who want pictures and photographs. So, yes, now
                                         Well, we shot Star Wars: Return of the Jedi in         I would like to do more (laughs).
                                         1982, so you can see how long it has been. I
                                         remember when we were shooting the film, Dave           The Star Wars films have a special place in

                                                                                                movie history. How do you feel about being
                                                                                                a part of that?
                                                                                        03      In a way it’s easy to be flippant about it, but these

                                                                                                films mean so much to people. I’ve worked with

                                                                                                actors who are now in their 40s and 50s who were

                                                                                                kids when the fi lms first came out. They’re far
                                                                                                more interested in my experiences on that fi lm
                                                                                                than they are in me having played Hamlet or
                                                                                                anything like that. It’s very interesting. I must say,
                                                                                                I’ve had a whale of a time. It’s lovely.


                                                                                                In the unlikely event Jerjerrod survived the
                                                                                                destruction of the Death Star, what do you
                                                                                                think would have happened to him?
                                                                                                I think he would have probably joined up with the
                                                                                                rebels. Maybe he would have had a conversion,
                                                                                                like Paul on the road to Damascus; “I’ve lived
                                                                                                my life all wrong by having anything to do with
                                                                                                Darth Vader and the Emperor,” he’d say. It would
                                                                                                make for a nice, rounded, Shakespearean role. He

                                                                                                could come back in the new films as a very, very
                                                                                                elderly Moff! I think that’s a good idea!





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