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INTERVIEW: MICHAEL PENNINGTON
02 performance—the rest of the company decided
to recreate the entire scene with me. The trouble PENNINGTON’S
was, the guy doing Darth Vader (not in costume,
I hasten to add) knew all the lines but I couldn’t PROGRESS
remember any of them. I’d completely forgotten
Born on June 4, 1943, Michael Pennington
every line, so they had to keep prompting me! began his acting career when he joined England’s
National Youth Theater. He first played Hamlet in
a student production in 1964, and has performed
In the years since making Return of the Jedi,
in the play no less than five times. Pennington
has your professional path crossed with any of became a member of the Royal Shakespeare
the other actors you worked with on Star Wars? Company (for the first time) after graduating
Ian McDiarmid, who played the Emperor, is a from university, and in 1986 he founded the
English Shakespeare Company.
very old friend of mine, and a colleague from
The actor has starred in numerous West End
my Royal Shakespeare Company days. We’ve productions, including works by Henrik Ibsen, Tom
worked together many, many times. When we Stoppard, and Anton Chekov, during a career
spanning six decades and many of the great stage
were shooting Return of the Jedi, Ian was always
roles, including King Lear and Macbeth. He has
in the makeup chair very early each morning, also written numerous books on stage craft.
because the makeup for the Emperor was quite
considerable. I’d go into his room and make fun of
him. I’d say, “Which of your great Shakespearean
performances is this, Ian? Is it Shylock?” I won’t Prowse said to me, “You must do the conventions,
mention the language he used to stop me, but you’ll have a wonderful time,” but for some reason
it was all in good fun. So I knew Ian well, and I I didn’t respond, and also I didn’t know what was
knew Richard Marquand a bit because we had involved. I’ve been working in the theatre for
overlapped at university. But on set, I really only most of the last 30 years, so I’ve just been busy
met Dave Prowse, as there wasn’t anybody else with other things. Then my agent suggested I do
in our scenes to meet. one and I thought, ‘Yeah, of course I should do
this, especially at my time of life’. And it’s been
You made your first convention appearance fantastic! I don’t know what I’d imagined, but I’ve
during 2018. What kept you away from the been very touched by the enthusiasm of people
Star Wars convention scene for so long? who want pictures and photographs. So, yes, now
Well, we shot Star Wars: Return of the Jedi in I would like to do more (laughs).
1982, so you can see how long it has been. I
remember when we were shooting the film, Dave The Star Wars films have a special place in
movie history. How do you feel about being
a part of that?
03 In a way it’s easy to be flippant about it, but these
films mean so much to people. I’ve worked with
actors who are now in their 40s and 50s who were
kids when the fi lms first came out. They’re far
more interested in my experiences on that fi lm
than they are in me having played Hamlet or
anything like that. It’s very interesting. I must say,
I’ve had a whale of a time. It’s lovely.
In the unlikely event Jerjerrod survived the
destruction of the Death Star, what do you
think would have happened to him?
I think he would have probably joined up with the
rebels. Maybe he would have had a conversion,
like Paul on the road to Damascus; “I’ve lived
my life all wrong by having anything to do with
Darth Vader and the Emperor,” he’d say. It would
make for a nice, rounded, Shakespearean role. He
could come back in the new films as a very, very
elderly Moff! I think that’s a good idea!
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