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               M               y Favorite Murder            Don’t Get Murdered, a nod to their show’s         The hosts on our first-ever ranking
                                                                                                                DOWNLOADING DOLLARS
                               was born, fittingly, at a

                                                            catchphrase); signed a development

                               Halloween party in the
                                                            deal with podcast publisher Stitcher
                                                                                                              on everything from basketball and
                               Los Feliz neighborhood       worth at least $10 million; and built a          of the top-earning podcasters opine
                                                                                                                baseball to movies and murder.
                               of Los Angeles in            55,000-person fan club—members pay
              2015. The gathering was thrown by a           $40 annually for exclusive episodes and
      22      mutual friend of the podcast’s future         access to presale tickets to live shows.

              cohosts, Karen Kilgariff (page 21, left),        In other words, the duo is killing it,
              a standup comic and comedy writer,            and their earnings show it. They made
       R
       E      and Georgia Hardstark, a host on              an estimated $15 million in 2019,
       N      the Cooking Channel. The women                placing them at No. 2 on our inaugural
       N
       U      had met before. But “it wasn’t until          ranking of the top-earning podcasters.
       R
       T      this party that we realized we were           It’s a boom time: Advertisers likely spent
       N      both really into true crime and didn’t        close to $700 million on pods last year,
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       R      have anyone else to talk to about it,”        according to estimates by PWC and the
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              says Hardstark, 39. They stationed            Interactive Advertising Bureau, a nearly
              themselves in the kitchen, ignoring the       sevenfold increase in four years; Spotify
              other guests and swapping tales of gore.      spent $250 million to acquire podcast                     1. JOE ROGAN
              “Which is stuff I like to do at a party.”     networks Gimlet and Parcast. Apple,                  The Joe Rogan Experience

                                                                                                                  2019 EARNINGS: $30 MIL*
                 “It was a perfect moment,” Hardstark       reportedly, is hot on Spotify’s heels with                     Topics:
              adds. “I met someone who . . . didn’t want  plans for its own network after years of              UFC, politics, standup comedy
              me to shut up about murder.”                  doing nothing. “People are realizing that

                 Millions of others, it turns out, didn’t   podcasting is special,” says Kilgariff, 49.         2. KAREN KILGARIFF AND
                                                                                                                  GEORGIA HARDSTARK
              want them to shut up either. Listeners        “I think people are isolated and really
                                                                                                                     My Favorite Murder
              can’t get enough of the pair’s darkly         lonely.” And in the case of My Favorite                       $15 MIL
              humorous tales about murderers                Murder, “it’s nice to listen and process                True crime, pop culture
              like Scott Scurlock, the Hollywood            terrible [things] together. There’s
                                                                                                                     3. DAVE RAMSEY
              Bandit, and Robert Hansen, the                something really cathartic about that.”
                                                                                                                   The Dave Ramsey Show
              Butcher Baker of Anchorage, Alaska.              Another recent endeavor for Kilgariff                      $10 MIL

              Today My Favorite Murder gets 35              and Hardstark: their own podcast                          Personal finance
              million downloads a month, and last           network, Exactly Right. They’ve greenlit
              year it was the seventh-most popular          five shows, including This Podcast Will                  4. DAX SHEPARD

                                                                                                                      Armchair Expert
              podcast on Apple Podcasts, ahead of           Kill You, a series about infectious diseases                   $9 MIL
              repurposed programming like NPR’s             hosted by two epidemiologists. “It’s very             Hollywood, current events
              Fresh Air and This American Life.             fun and cool and old-fashioned show
                                                                                                                     5. BILL SIMMONS
                 The duo’s little true-crime empire         business to discover talent,” Kilgariff says.         The Bill Simmons Podcast

              is growing. In the past year, they’ve         “We’re lucky because ours is popular that                      $7 MIL
              performed 40 live shows; published a          we have this fuse, and we can connect                     Sports, Hollywood
              New York Times bestseller (Stay Sexy &        this fuse to people who deserve it.”




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