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CANNIBALISM,





                                                               DEATH,





                        RUBBER FETISHES...









             These are just some of the topics covered on Lindemann’s compelling new record. But from the
                men who are the main brains behind Rammstein and Hypocrisy, you shouldn't be surprised.


                                                                             Words: Dannii Leivers

                          n December 4, 2018, Rammstein’s        “For digestion,” Till says seriously, nodding.   two halves. In 2016 the duo were approached by
                          Till Lindemann strode into             “I’m like: ‘No, vodka maybe?’” Peter continues.   the Thalia Theater in Hamburg, who asked them
                          a Moscow book signing                “And he’s like: ‘No, it’s too much. Let’s do a couple   to score the soundtrack for their modern adaption
                          accompanied by a gimp on a leash.    of Jägermeister.’ It took a few hours, and then the   of Hansel And Gretel. The five tracks they wrote and
           O As he sat down to sign copies of his              war was on.”                                       recorded for the production (Blut, Knebel, Allesfresser,
            poetry collection, Messer, his companion knelt       “We puked, and then the same night we decided:   Schlaf Ein and Wer weiß Das Schon) add much needed
            dutifully on the floor beside him.                 let’s do music together,” Till says with a chuckle.  depth to F&M, touching on cannibalism, death and
              It takes him a little while to recall the incident                                                  child abandonment – all topics Till has explored
            when we bring it up. “Ah, the bondage woman!” he           ue to Till’s Rammstein commitments and     with Rammstein.
            finally remembers. “Book signings are so boring. It        Peter’s numerous band and production          “My whole history inspires me, good and bad
            takes forever, standing in the cold and rain… so we  Dcommittments, it took them 15 years to          times,” he explains. “I take a lot from television,
            brought something to entertain the people.”        record their first track together. Once they started   actually – from news, of course. Take cannibalism
              Bringing a gimp to a bookshop is actually        recording, though, the project snowballed, leading   [talking about Rammstein track Mein Teil]. People
            one of the meeker stunts Lindemann has pulled      to smutty debut Skills In Pills in 2015. While Peter   were like: ‘You crazy motherfucker.’ This is not
            over the years. As a trained pyrotechnician,       handled the music, Till’s perverse, ludicrous      a story, it happened! There was a case in Germany –
            his flame-throwing antics with German metal        tendencies ran amok on tracks with titles like Fat,   somebody ate the dick from another guy! You don’t
            behemoths Rammstein have made him one              Ladyboy and Praise Abort. New album F&M is no less   have to be sick and crazy in your mind all the time.”
            of rock’s most controversial characters. So on     outrageous, with multiple songs about oral sex, as    As fun as it was, at times the sheer silliness of
            deciding that Russia was a long way to go just to   well as Gummi, a track about a rubber fetish. Have   Skills In Pills made Lindemann seem like a novel
            sign some books, he used it as an opportunity to   they received any complaints?                      concept, rather than something to properly plug
            take Lindemann – Till and his bandmate, multi-       “Of course,” Till shrugs. “The Christian groups,   the gaps between Till and Peter’s day jobs.
            instrumentalist, producer and                                                                                          “You set a standard with the first
            Hypocrisy and Pain frontman Peter                                                                                    album, and then people think: ‘Oh,
            Tägtgren – an equally provocative,                                                                                   this is how the rest of the career
            pumping amalgamation of Euro-        “We want to prove to ourselves that we                                          is going to be,’” Peter, says clearly
            synth and industrial crunch, on the   can write different kinds of music. It’s                                       aware of the questions surrounding
            road for the first time.                                                                                             Lindemann’s longevity. “We want
              “It was a new start, an           important for us to develop.” Peter Tägtgren                                     to prove to ourselves that we can
            experiment,” he tells us today.                                                                                      write different kinds of music. It’s
            “We needed to find out if it worked, if we had the   they come of course. But kids these days, they’ve   important for us to develop.”
            right chemistry on stage. It was very crazy, small   seen everything.”                                    Accordingly, F&M feels like a more serious
            clubs, small venues.”                                Dressed all in black and towering over his       artistic endeavour, a far more varied record than its
              Today Lindemann are back in Russia, shooting     bandmate, Till has an imposing presence. Yet as    predecessor – which, bar two ballads, was about
            videos and conducting press for their second       he repeatedly, perhaps nervously, removes and      as musically subtle as Rammstein’s penis-shaped
            album, F&M. We meet them in St Petersburg,         replaces his dark sunglasses, he’s a contemplative   canon. Ach So Gern is a folky waltz, Peter describes
            in the glass-walled roof restaurant of the plush   and quiet interviewee. And while Till procrastinates   Platz Einz as “Pet Shop Boys on amphetamine”,
            Kempinski Hotel. Just one block away, the brightly   over our questions, Peter fills in conversational gaps   while Mathematik – written by his son Sebastian,
            coloured onion domes of the Church Of The          with quick, sharp answers. Despite their differences,   Lindemann’s drummer – features German
            Savior On Spilled Blood rise into the air. It’s the   though, the pair have an easy rapport that comes   rapper Haftbefehl. Tapping into the unpredictable
            perfect place for an interview with two of rock’s   from decades of close friendship.                 personalities of its creators, it feels like Lindemann
            most unique characters. As we drink it all in, the   Peter, what was your reaction when Till brought   have progressed beyond tongue-in-cheek laughs to
            duo, tucking into plates of fruit and cold cuts, recall   you a track like Gummi?                     something deeper and darker.
            how they met at the MTV Awards ceremony in           “Normal life at work,” he replies, unfazed.         “I think a lot of people might have a hard time
            Stockholm almost 20 years ago.                       Till starts laughing. “In the beginning, the first   accepting it because it doesn’t go the way you think
              “You were still fresh in the game. [Rammstein]   song [we recorded] was Ladyboy, and he was: ‘Are   it’s going when you listen to it the first time,” Peter
            only had the second album out,” Peter remembers.   you serious? Are you for real?’ He gave up on me   says firmly. “But we don’t write for anybody. We
            “You opened Pandora’s Box. You were like: ‘Do you   a long time ago.”                                 write for ourselves.”
            have any schnapps in Sweden?’ Because Germans        While six of F&M’s 11 tracks are right out of
            always have apple Schnapps…”                       Till’s mental gutter, it is undoubtedly an album of   F&M is out now via Universal.



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