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need you, when they are sick they need   is more and more critical in terms of   how they are going to get more qualified
         you right now – and sometimes when   making sure that the contribution of men   women into the workplace and taking
         things go wrong at work, as a leader   and women are really valued. People   some of those potential barriers away I
         you feel like you need to be there right   need to feel like they are making a   am behind. But, the concept of a quota
         now. Some of the operational things at   contribution; make them feel they are   has some of the wrong connotations.
         work you want to be there other than   making a difference after doing a second
         having other people manage things in   shift on the home-front is really critical I   :  What is your advice for women
         your place. That was probably what   think, too.                         Q  aspiring to climb the corporate/
         was hardest with the first two children;                                     executive ladder?
         trying to manage those priorities and   :  What has changed during your     :  It really helps to have spent years
         feel as though I am doing both jobs well.   Q  time in industry?         A   in your career with some of the
         Often it felt like I was compromising   :  The big change I have seen is on   more challenging hands on operational
         both of them. With my third child it was  A   the understanding of the business   roles – site leadership roles and the
         a very different situation. There was a   case of diversity and diverse teams.   meaty finance roles like M&A. Often
         downturn in industry and my role was   When I started in the workplace, I   women opt out of the development path
         effectively redundant, so there wasn’t   don’t remember any discussion around   of those roles because they come at a
         any pressure to come back. I ended   having a diverse workforce, women   time when women are having families
         up taking a redundancy. The positive   in the workplace and how different   and they are making choices. I would
         was that it was a different experience   perspectives were going to add business   never question that. I think we need to
         then, managing a very small child and   value. It wasn’t until I had been working   think about how we make sure people
         positioning myself mentally in terms of   for about 15 years that I heard research   take time out in that way and how we
         how I came across another job in the   showed that successful companies were   people get that experience. I think it is
         organisation and appear to be a strong   ones that had more diverse leadership   still entirely social for a woman to say
         candidate. The other positive coming   teams and more diverse workforces and   ‘I am going to take a couple years part
         back after maternity leave was that there   that was like a revelation. That conviction   time to focus on the family’ and that is
         was a time for reflection and to assess   has probably mentally changed most,   often something men don’t feel they
         whether I wanted to get back to fulltime   but I think there is still work to be done   have that choice.  I think people want
         work. When I had those moments, I   about how and why that diversity     diversity, but don’t necessarily challenge
         was able to remember this was what I   adds value and how we lead in such   how they lead, I think we have to
         chose and had to get on with it. Having   a way that we do get the value. Also,   challenge that. I think you also need to
         the deliberate choice, rather than have   workplaces saying harassment is not ok,   take a level of risk and take a challenge.
         something that has come onto you was   pin ups are not ok. When I started, if I   Do those roles that you aren’t sure that
         how I looked at it.                 had commented on any of those things,   you can do, because if you only ever do
                                             I think it would have been a negative.   the things that you are sure you can do,
            :  What can be done to help      Nowadays, that stuff just doesn’t happen   you won’t grow. You have to be resilient
         Q  partners with their industry     and shouldn’t and if it does happen it is   because it won’t work all the time. You
              ambitions?                     dealt with. There is no more powerful   need to protect yourself and put those
            :  The single most important thing for   sign to a woman that she doesn’t really   networks around you and have strategy
         A   a female to have a successful   belong than asking her to wear clothes   so if things don’t go well you can pick
         career is to have a partner who doesn’t   that are too big and don’t fit. It wasn’t   yourself up and say ‘what did I learnt
         see having a family as the woman’s role.   until later in my career that I thought one   from that and how do I go forward?’.
         Most of the women I know who have   reason I don’t belong here is because
         succeeded in mining have a partner who   nothing really fitted me. Gear that fits   :  Is there anything that you would
         does have an equal share or in many   women is just standard now.        Q  have done differently?
         cases does more than half the work and                                      :  If I had that increased level of self
         is very supportive. It is important that the   :  Are you in favour of quotas to    A   belief when I was younger it would
         female partner is not expected to take   Q  boost female participation in the    have been helpful. Like many people, at
         the bulk of the load, there are times that      sector?                  times I had knockbacks and it took time
         it does happen because of biological   :  I don’t support quotas. I would   to pick myself up. I listened to feedback
         needs. In the workforce, with most of   A   never like to be somewhere   about what I wasn’t doing right rather
         our leaders being male, the way that   because of a quota. The concept of   than taking it in context.
         men lead and their inclusive leadership   targets which leads people to think about



         Alicia Hurkmans is this year’s Exceptional Young Woman   “There are a lot of young girls out there who need to
         in Australian Resources. Hurkmans is a turnaround      hear about the women who are working in the resources
         engineer with Shell and has Bachelor of Science        sector. It’s an incredibly rewarding place to work.”
         (Biotechnology) and Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical)   Hurkmans started her career as a vacation student at BHP
         from the University of Adelaide.                       Ltd’s Olympic Dam in South Australia, before taking up an
         “I hope that I can use the award to bring some recognition   internship with Shell Australia in Perth.
         to the fact that there’s still a lot of work to be done within   A key part of her ongoing career ambition is to contribute
         the diversity piece within our communities, within our   to shifting societal perspectives towards equality,
         industry and within our sector, and I hope that the work   encouraging young women to be confident about their
         that is being done can be celebrated,” Hurkmans said.  abilities and pursuing their visions.



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