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him with his little keyboard, and we recorded in this cheap studio
            in Echo Park, no frills, nothing fancy.


            And Shooter and his band backed you for your solo shows this year.
            That was a different experience for me. With Guns we rehearse
            hard for a tour – four weeks, six days a week, six to eight hours
            a day. With Shooter’s guys we had one rehearsal for four hours
            – and that was like two hours too much! I guess you could say my
            songs are kind of simple.

            Back in 2016, when you and Slash began rehearsing for the Not
            In This Lifetime tour, you were playing those old songs again, from
            Appetite For Destruction and Use Your Illusion I and II,
            and also some of the songs from Chinese Democracy, the Guns
            album that Axl made without you guys. How did that feel?
            For me it was very cool. With every record I’ve ever made, I never
            listen to them after they’re done. So diving into Appetite and the
            Illusions stuff, songs that I played as a young man, rediscovering it
            all, it was really cool for me to go back and do that. With Chinese
            Democracy, some of the stuff on that record is brilliant – really
            brilliant. Axl asked Slash and I to do these certain things from that
            record, and when we played them with Frank [Ferrer, drummer],
            it was like: “Let’s make these songs the best we can make it.” It was
            fun for Slash and I to tear those songs apart and play them with
            aggression. We made them our own.


            In 2014, two years before you officially rejoined Guns N’ Roses,
            you played bass for the band on a South American tour, standing
            in for Tommy Stinson, who was doing reunion shows with his old
            band The Replacements. You told Classic Rock that you and Axl
            got really close again on that tour.
            Oh yeah. We had such a great time together. We played a show
            in La Paz, Bolivia, at an altitude of twelve thousand feet. I’d done
            mountain climbing. I said: “Ax, man, the air is
            thin up there.” Seriously, people pass out
            when they come off the plane. They have oxygen
            at the airport. And we gotta play a rock show
            there, in a soccer stadium where they don’t have
            games any more because no other team will go                                                          But the tour did not get off to the best of starts.
            and play because it’s not fair. So I was taking                                                       Yeah, right? Axl broke his fucking foot in our
            Diamox, mountain climber shit, and I gave some                                                        first show [at the Troubadour in LA]. But he
            to Axl. We go through this journey together, and                                                      said right away that he wanted to continue
            to watch him sing up there… man, it was an                                                            the tour. As a singer, you stand up, put your
            amazing experience.                                                                                   shoulders back and chest out and you sing.
                                                                                                                  But he figured it out. Sitting down, contracted,
            What has the Not In This Lifetime tour meant to                                                       I don’t know how he did it. And not just got
            you on a personal level?                                                                              though it, he did it well. And at the same time
            It’s been one of the most enlightening times of my life. All the way                    we had other things going on…
            through, there’s been a lot of levity. You know, when we finally
            communicated, hey, it’s a lot easier when you talk! And I found                         Specifically, Axl taking on another job during breaks in GN’R’s
            myself remembering how these guys taught me so much in my                               schedule – singing for AC/DC after Brian Johnson had to
            early days. I learned a lot from these guys about just how to be.                       withdraw from their Rock Or Bust tour.
                                                                                                    That came out of nowhere, as we all know. But Axl had to do it.
            You’ve always remained tight with one ex-member of Guns, rhythm                         It would have been like if Prince had asked me to play because
            guitarist Izzy Stradlin. You’ve played on each other’s records over                     he’d lost a guy. I’d have said: ‘You know I have to do this, right?’
            the years. But Izzy declined to rejoin the band for the tour.                           It was more of that than anything else.
            He and I have done a lot together in all the years in between.
            But this tour, I just don’t think he ever wanted to do it. We tried                     What, for you, was the best thing about this tour?
            to make it work, but it just didn’t. And in a situation like this                       The size of the crowds that came, everywhere we went, was
            you’re really in it, man. You either get on it or you don’t, because                    really something. And the way we did it, having each other’s
            the train’s moving forward. The good thing is, Slash really                             backs after all these things we’ve been through in the past, for
            likes playing with Richard Fortus [GN’R guitarist since 2002],                          me that was the coolest thing.
                                                                                 A contempative
            and Slash is somewhat picky about that kind of stuff. They get     studio, and (inset)   And as you told us earlier this year, there’s a new Guns N’
                                                                                 McKagan in the
            on great as far as a two-guitar player relationship goes. To be
          SCOTT DUDELSON/PRESS x2  honest, I haven’t taken a lot of time to go back on the Izzy thing   whom he recorded   Roses album coming. If and when that happens, could you die
                                                                                    with Shooter
                                                                                  Jennings, with
                                                                                                    a happy man?
            because we just move forward, and things are so good. And as
                                                                                                    Well, everything I’m doing now, I’m thinking this is part of my
            I’ve found out many times in my life, things are supposed to
                                                                                       his album
            happen as they happen.
                                                                                                    legacy. But I’m planning on being around for a while.
                                                                                     Tenderness.

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